Is the God of the Old Testament really hateful and spiteful?

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In my conversations with non-Christians and agnostics over the years, the Old Testament has always been one of the greatest points of friction. They would read about constant wars and killing; about how God commanded Israel, the so-called chosen people, to destroy other nations. And they would conclude that religion was about war, saying to the effect; “If God is so hateful and wrathful, then I want nothing to do with him.”

And from a cursory glance, this impression seems reasonable. After all, is not the Old Testament filled with continual war and killing? And did God not command Israel to kill and destroy other nations? Is there, therefore, any moral continuity between the Old and New Testaments? This question, it seems, has been a source of confusion and frustration for potential converts—-and has even confounded many Christians themselves (some sects of Christianity even expunge the Old Testament completely).

Thankfully, the answer to this question is found in the pages of the Old Testament itself. One need only to read it in full to see it more clearly. In fact, upon reading the Old Testament, quite a different picture emerges than merely a sea of blood and death. Yes, there was violence in the Old Testament. But who was causing that violence to begin with? Just as people want to blame Christianity for the crusades, few realize how it started—with an aggressor on one side, attacking a victim on the other.

In fact, the Old Testament is, in large part, all about victimhood. From the very beginning, Israel started as victims, as slaves in a foreign land. And throughout Israel’s flight from Egypt, they were constantly subjected to outside aggression from other nations. It was the outside nations, in other words, who waged war on them. All they wanted to do was pass through; they just wanted to get to the promised land, to the land “flowing with milk and honey.” But the other nations would not let them. Moses even politely asked the others nations, “Now let us pass through your land. We will not pass through field or vineyard, neither will we drink water from a well…we will not turn aside to the right hand or to the left until we have passed through your territory.” (Num 20:17) But what did Edom say in return? “You shall not pass through, lest I come out with the sword against you.” Again, Israel sent messengers to the Amonites, “Let me pass through your land; we will not turn aside into field or vineyard; we will not drink the water of a well…until we have passed through your territory.” (Num 21:21) But what did the Amonites do in return? They went out and attacked Israel. And what happened in Bashan? The very same thing: They wouldn’t let Israel pass, and instead came out to destroy them. Even hundreds of years later, and after many victories, Israel was accused of unjustly attacking neighboring nations (as is often the case, the victims are often accused of being the aggressors), and Jephthah, one of the judges of Israel, had to correct the record, saying; we are not the aggressors, we are the victims! (see Judges 11:12-20)

Even after Israel reached the promised land, they were still subjected to continual attacks and threats of destruction, from kings, kings servants, and from neighboring lands. In fact, story after story of the Old Testament is, essentially, stories of victimhood. It is about faith against all odds, when all hope seems lost. It is about trusting in God’s protection (and in doing so, receiving even greater reward). From Joseph’s betrayal by his brothers, to Israel’s slavery in Egypt, to Daniel and the lion’s den, to David and Goliath, to Esther, Ezra, Judith, and Maccabees, the Old Testament is filled with stories of long-suffering and affliction, of trusting in more than what can be measured by the eyes. As David told his enemies; You come after me with swords and spears, but I have God on my side.

And should it be any surprise that the whole world seemed to want to destroy Israel? Remember, the world was not a pretty place back then. Most people on the earth were entirely corrupt and wicked. When you have civilizations who practice human sacrifice—even sacrificing of one’s own children—can you expect anything else from such a people? Do people who burn their children alive sound like a peaceful reasonable people? God even repeatedly said, do not do as they do; “When you come into the land which the Lord  your God gives you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering…” (Deut. 18:9, see also 1 Kings 14:24, 2 Kings 16:3, 2 Kings 17:17)

You see, rather than destroy the earth again for man’s wickedness, God chose to abide by His promise and do something different. He chose a small tribe of people who He would nurture and raise by His own hand; a tribe that began as a family and would grow into an entire nation; a tribe that would be the moral barometer of the world. Where other nations practiced temple prostitution and human sacrifice, God was teaching Israel about compassion to the stranger, about caring for widows and orphans, about treating foreigners as brothers (“Love the foreigner therefore; for you were once foreigners in the land of Egypt”–Duet. 10:19), about kindness, honesty and integrity—all the values we uphold as dear. Israel was the smallest of all nations, the weakest and most helpless of all. But they were God’s chosen people. “For…the Lord has chosen you to be a people for his own possession, out of all the people that are on the face of the earth. It was not because you were more in number than any other people…for you were the fewest of all peoples; but it is because the Lord loves you…that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you from the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh.” Israel was God’s chosen people. And because of that special election, they were guaranteed victory, so long as they persevered in faith through trials.  Would they trust that God would lead them safely through to the promised land? Or would they turn back to their old ways? Would they love their neighbor and care for widows and orphans, or would they abuse their neighbors as the other nations did, as Sodom and Gomorrah did?

Many people assume that the commandment of love and mercy began with Christ in the New Testament. But it is a constant and ever-developing theme in the Old Testament as well. Even as far back as the pages of Leviticus, we see God establishing the law of love on the hearts of his people, “You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason with your neighbor…You shall not take vengeance or bear any grudge…but your shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the Lord” (Lev. 19:17) The journey from external ritual to the heart, in fact, began in the Old Testament. As the Lord repeated to Israel time and time again, “it is not sacrifice and burnt offerings that God desires, but a humble and contrite heart.” And these messages are repeated to Israel throughout the Old Testament. Be kind to the stranger. Welcome the traveler. Do not oppress your neighbor nor covet his goods. Do not kill, steal, or lie. Be upright and just, honest, patient, and faithful. Do not do as the other nations do, in other words, and God will reward you.

In no other document from this period of history do we find such a message of love. Try as you might, but you will not find it. For its time, the Old Testament is a diamond in the rough. It is morally ten steps ahead of anything that existed at the time. And for this reason, it should be cherished and reverenced. When we read its pages, we should always keep this in mind. When we read about Abraham and Isaac, for example, we should not see a hateful God asking a man to sacrifice his own son. Rather, we should see a merciful God showing, instead, that He is not like other gods—that instead of making Abraham sacrifice his only son, rather provides the lamb Himself (and indeed, becoming the lamb Himself, in atonement for all sin). We see a God who, rather than destroy a people for their sin, will later “destroy” Himself on their behalf, and on behalf of all mankind. We see, in other words, an unfolding of love in its highest form, which culminates on a cross.




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  1. Kevin Walters
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    A further understanding to my posts below.
    At Pentecost The Spirit of God inspires the Apostles and sends them on their mission; while all the Baptized are asked to do the same. As those who receive the Holy Spirit are also empowered to give witness to Jesus Christ in the world, while He the Holy Spirit sanctifies our hearts in creating a dwelling place for Himself (The Divine Presence) to reside within us.

    After the Crucifixion in the Upper Room we see those who had travelled the road of enlightenment/self-realization with Jesus (The Word Made Flesh) hide in fear of the Jewish leadership, while now knowing the full reality of their brokenness (Betrayal and cowardice) before our Father in heaven. It could be said that their hearts were now readied to receive The Holy Spirit as a humble heart is His dwelling place, as in
    “I am leaving you with a gift–peace of mind and heart. And the peace I give is a gift the world cannot give. So, don’t be troubled or afraid”

    Prior to the Pentecost we see Man’s understanding of the righteousness of God manifest by Prophets, such as, in Elijah’ murderous blood bath of the vile prophets of Baal, with all their wives and innocent children. He then hides in fear because “I have been very zealous (Ruthless) for the Lord” Similar to St Paul’s zealous murderous persecution of Christians, while James and his brother John wanted to call down fire on a Samaritan town; they were rebuked by Jesus. Prior to this rebuke Jesus called James and John, Boanerges, which meant “sons of thunder” (Mark 3:17) – probably a reference to the positive side of their bold and zealous personalities

    A Personal understanding of 1 Kings 19:11-12
    A wind there was (of Pride), rude and boisterous, that shook the mountains (Heavens) and broke the rocks (Holy precepts) in pieces before the Lord, but the Lord was not to be found in the wind (of my bluster). Nor in the storm (High expectations of life) and earthquake ( Of self-made foundations/delusions) leading to the Fire (of suffering/Reality of the selfhood) and after the fire, the whisper of a gentle (Uplifting) breeze

    For men of good intent on the Worldly plain It is natural to want prevail over evil (especially in others) to call to account and punish those who do evil, this desire comes from a worldly feeling of self-righteousness but as seen by Elijah’s inspired self-realization, God is known through His gentleness, as in a gentle breeze.

    Jesus says “Learn from me for I am meek and humble of heart”

    So, the battle has to be fought on the Spiritual Plane if it is to bear lasting fruit, we do this this when we walk with the Holy Spirit in humility. (St Bernard, Humility; a virtue by which a man knowing himself as he truly is, abases him-self).

    At Pentecost we see the Holy Spirit descend and then separate onto the Apostles conferring within them (and now to those who serve Him) the power of Truth. The Truth bears witness to Itself and needs no embellishment, as those who are of the Truth hear His voice. It could be said that authority comes with Truth and those who serve It. (As manifest in a humble heart)

    So, mankind needs to see the light of the Holy Spirit dwelling/working within us, as only a humble Priesthood/Church can lead mankind away from evil, as a humble heart (Church) will never cover its tracks or hide its short comings, and in doing so confers authenticity (Holiness), as it walks in its own vulnerability/weakness/brokenness in trust/faith before God and mankind. It is a heart (Church) to be trusted, as it ‘dispels’ darkness within its own ego/self, in serving God (Truth/Love) first, before any other as the Holy Spirit (Divine Presence) cannot dwell in an untruthful heart as “The Truth” will not permit evil to hide itself. We are ALL sinners, but been honest with ourselves and others permits us to walk in humility (friendship) with the Holy Spirit, where no deception or lie is tolerated within ourselves or between each other.

    Christ reveals that the Holy Spirit will “convince the ‘unbelieving’ world of sin, and of justice and of judgement;” he will “teach…all truth;” and will “glorify” Christ.

    Words of condemnation have their place, but it is the whisper of a gentle breeze’ bearing witness to the Truth, in a humble heart, which glorifies God as it permits others to see and believe in His merciful gentle ‘living’ Face/heart, which leads others to contemplate/know/follow Him in humility also.

    “Father forgive them they know not what they do”

    Here we see His understanding of the human heart and the compassion that He had for all of mankind. Reflected in Isaiah 42:3 “He won’t break off a bent reed or put out a dying flame, but he will make sure that justice is done”
    There is no self-righteous anger, rather a call for mercy and insightfulness for all those sinners who dwell in darkness. Which was manifest in His total self-giving on the Cross, for all men.
    As with the Centurion who stood facing Him as He hung on the Cross “The people dwelling in darkness have seen a great light, and for those dwelling in the region and shadow of death, on them a light has dawned” The divine spark had been ignited within the Centurion, a new understanding had commenced as he exclaimed

    “This man was indeed God’s Son.”

    kevin your brother
    In Christ

    1. Kevin Walters
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      Addendum to my post 23.10.20

      We can look to St Mother Teresa as a modern-day example of Christian Charity in the way she spread the Gospel through works of charity and her confrontation with a fallen sinful world. In her confrontation with the promotors of abortion (The Clintons) it was not in a ranting emotional bluster, driven by self-righteous indignation. See the link

      An extract from the article given via the link, the parts highlighted in bold text emanate from a gentle humble (Loving) heart, which is what my post is all about.

      “This was not the end of the relationship, which Hillary has always looked back upon with fondness. In the short time she had left on earth, Mother Teresa continued to try to change Clinton’s view on abortion. According to Hillary, “she sent me dozens of notes and messages with the same gentle entreaty. She dealt with the first lady with patience and kindness, but firm conviction: “Mother Teresa never lectured or scolded me; her admonitions were always loving and heartfelt,” wrote Hillary, adding that she had “the greatest respect for her opposition to abortion.” Mother Teresa saw in Hillary a potentially huge convert to the pro-life cause, and never gave up, but to no avail”

      I take umbrage with the statement “to no avail as only God knows the full long-term effects that her firm conviction and the persistent actions of Mother Teresa will have had on Hilary Clinton and those around her, as those who walk with Holy Spirit, produce good fruit, the seeds of which are often sown unseen within human hearts, at the time of their encounter with Him.
      Mother Teresa will have known this and trusted in the workings of the Holy Spirit knowing that all enlightenment comes from God and because of this she would not have been driven to distraction or bitterness as the peace that He gives to His true Disciples, cannot be taken from them.

      It could be said that these actions by Mother Teresa spring from “a gentle breeze” living ( Dwelling ) within her loving humble heart.

      “If you judge people, you have no time to love them.” – Mother Teresa

      Father! with tongue and flame give us unity again.

      kevin your brother
      In Christ

  2. Kevin Walters
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    As stated in my post below May 9, 2018, to deliberately separate the intellect from the heart, will lead one to hell.

    It is generally accepted, that there are many causes, attributed to early childhood bonding experiences that can result in the lack of emotional empathy, and in extreme cases result in serious psychological behaviour.
    It could be said that for true emotional inter-dependence to come about with others, we need to show /tell our vulnerability, for when we do so, it confers authenticity, a place from where we can truly share the communal meal and our life with others.
    As a comparison to authenticity we/mankind could describe some Christians as unbonded or counterfeit goods, on display in a supermarket. But we are not in the comfort of a super-market with it ‘rows’ of neatly stacked shelfs, rather we are in an open market, where all types of products (People) are to be found. The reality is, that many products do not live up to expectation, the branded (Christian) image of a perfect pizza on display, is rarely matched by what is found within the box, so we are confronted with a subtle deception, we accept this lie because our expectations have gradually been eroded to accept “Seconds” and we collude with this deception, as it could be said that the ‘Image’ supersedes the reality of our inability to confront the “Truth” of this ongoing situation.

    This inability to confront a perfect brand image could describe the reality of inauthenticity within the Church today. Seconds are usually marked as ‘seconds’ and sold off cheaply, often in open markets, they could be described as faulty goods, these faulty goods cover a wide spectrum of deficiencies, form slightly imperfect to badly damaged, nevertheless they all retain value, no one is deceived, as the reality is seen in the stated Truth (humility/vulnerability) of each individual item (Situation), in that you get what you see on the box, they are not perceived as counterfeit goods.
    Then we have another category of goods on display, on the broken goods stall or in the junk-yard, irreplaceable parts are often missing, these parts could be described as “essentials” as the product will never function as it was meant to do.

    In the link below there is an article written by an anonymous contributor and needs to be read to ‘fully’ comprehend, my continuing post; from the article

    “I am a middle-aged woman with an attachment disorder.* Due to the death of my mother shortly after my birth and a series of misguided actions on the part of well-meaning relatives, I have found it extremely hard to bond with people. In particular, I have little innate sense of what fatherhood and motherhood entail. Even today, “family” is a combination of challenging ties that often suffocate more than console. And yet, broken as I am, God loves me. Given my rough beginning, my life entailed a series of choices based on imitation rather than authenticity”

    Quote from another source: “The gift of our humanity, savoured and appreciated, can become a mirror and window to the mystery of God for ourselves”

    Yes! I agree, as I can identify with the woman in the article, as I do with the true Divine Mercy Image an “Image of Broken Man”
    Because I have now been able to pinpoint my original moment of brokenness, as in, been damaged in a connived traumatic incident of rejection, when I was about two years old’ that left me emotionally isolated, as my hearts natural emotional bonding had been separated/damaged, in relation to my intellect. Now looking back everything falls into place, such as when two cousins came over from Ireland and staying with relatives, then been told to go/come down, to my house, to see (Look at) me, and looking at me commented “He never speaks” and other comments throughout my childhood such as “He is so very, very, quiet “ etc. It is only now, much later in life that I realize that I hardly ever spoke but in my quietness I observed others impartially, as I was fundamentally honest also I now attribute my dyslexia to this lack of verbal communication, emanating from an emotionally stifled heart.

    We are ‘all’ vulnerable before the yoke of our Fathers inviolate Word (Will) and when embraced honestly, it will induce humility (St Bernard Humility a virtue by which a man knowing himself as he truly is, abases himself) as we direct the open recognition of our state of being before Him, other-wise you run the risk of becoming self-righteous, the blinding of oneself, to the reality of your own stifled heart/soul.
    We are all born with original sin we are not perfect, as we are all ‘seconds’ in relation to the genuine article.

    “If we could plumb the depths of meaning in our own personal life histories we might be able to forge more effective link with others’

    Conclusion The true Divine Mercy Image one of Broken Man offers the church the means to confer authenticity on damaged/broken goods (Those who cannot receive the sacrament of reconciliation), as many have genuine parts, given by our Maker, that can contribute and be used to make ‘seconds’ and faulty goods, work as they were meant to.

    But “counterfeit” goods will be rejected by anyone with a modicum of humility/common sense, as the genuine Believer/ product does not hide the reality of itself behind an
    imageof perfection, self-righteousness or holiness.

    kevin your brother
    In Christ

    1. Kevin Walters
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      Fourteen years old furtherConnivance does unfold.
      Jumble sale to make a gain, a treasure trove, myself I goad
      Church hall door I have queued before
      First in the queue, pay at the door, others stall,
      Brick-a-brac stall, ahead of the storm
      Rolls Royce choice, behind complaining voice
      “First in the queue” Old croaky, her envy I knew
      To me it was just fun, she could have been anyone
      Next jumble sale
      St Chad’s Hall, standing tall
      First in the queue, nothing new
      Behind gentle voice, words of choice
      ‘Sweet dear’, I could hardly hear
      I ‘am getting old’, gentle her tale she told
      Spinning tale, been old, it’s not the same
      No longer can I play the game
      Without goods for my Market Stall the bailiffs will call
      I need help, will a shilling an item tempt
      Ladies silk is all I ask; leave me to the brick -a- brac
      Old croaky having fun
      I was innocent and young
      Silk mark in each undergarment you will find, ‘bear this in mind’
      First in, ladies undergarments, win, win, win
      But seen as sin, sin, sin
      Holding high the silk mark I did spy
      The Bishops wife, possibly beholding such a sight
      Tut and stare, totally unaware
      Full load, smiling old toad
      White hair, cold blue eyed stare
      Now, ‘let me see’ giving a few bob, with glee
      Then! To seal her fun, pocket found, crystal orb
      To one eye to absorb, taking down, she gave me a frown
      Never to see her again, but her sisters continuing the game,
      Setting every frame, while encouraging shame
      My own load, is more than enough, to make one blush
      Splinter to a plank, this is far more than a prank
      End game, blood and shame.

      kevin your brother
      In Christ

  3. Kevin Walters
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    “Old Testament is all about victimhood”

    Rather it is about the enlightening voice of Truth, showing us the ‘Way’ to our true home in heaven, to understand this journey, we have to understand the ‘Fall’ and the developing Hebrew mentality.
    Jesus tells us, he came to save that which was lost. My understanding of ‘the lost’ is that we are lost in time and place; we all carry a divine timeless spark within us, we are more than a physical being.
    Please see (Continue in) my post @16 in the link below before continuing

    “God saw all that he had made, and it was very good”

    Man’s Innate knowledge, all though greatly diminished at the “Fall” still tells man that this is so, but now from his broken, distorted heart, he sees the physical cosmos as been in a state of continual flux, held in a continuum of distortion.
    This physical plane as perceived by man is the reality of his fallen state.
    This realty in our fallen state is not the same reality that is seen on the spiritual plane, as in a ‘timeless moment’, where all is (appears to be) in perfect harmony.

    The early Hebrews, searches of the heart, as in the understanding the Light of God, can be seen in Abraham, as he sees/believes in the ‘spiritual reality of Creation’ as in all things been the Will of One God.
    Human sacrifice was probable practiced by many tribes at that time, although Abraham looked to the Light, we must not forget that he dwelt in his fallen state, as we all do and in that state it would not be unreasonable to consider that he would have also be drawn into the sacrificial mind set, which he was part of, as in animal sacrifice.

    We do not know in what manner God spoke to Abraham, but possible through dreams, visions or happenings in nature, as in the lamb caught within a bush, just prior to the intended sacrificing of Isaac, but these occurrences as in dreams are all open to an act of faith. But what we do know is that Abraham acted in singular (pure) intent to his ‘understanding’ of the Will of God.

    Here we are drawn into the spiritual reality in that all things are in ‘harmony’. Yes it was the Will of God, in that God asked Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, but to us in our fallen state, who dwell upon the earthly plane, it can only be accepted in faith, as it cannot be seen to be in harmony, with a God of love.

    God chose a practical way that could not be misunderstood, to convey his Will, to his people, that would be passed down through the ages by word of mouth (storytelling). God’s ways are not our ways, Isaac was not sacrificed.
    And as this story was passed down around camp fires, men would reflect upon the Wonder of our God and continually reflect like ‘twinkling stars’ do, and grow in their understand of the Light (Spirit) of God, and we see this onward growing understanding as in

    Hosea 6:6 “I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings”

    This spiritual journey home, that is one of spiritual enlightenment , individual and collectively by the early Hebrews, in their fallen nature, is a constant battle between the then known light of “Truth” and earthly ignorance; as in an eye for an eye, to “do not resist the evil doer”

    ‘Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool’.

    This spiritual insight comes from God
    In earthly ignorance, this could be understood as justification for the suppression of a Godless people. But to dwell/sit in the full reality of the enlightening light of Truth, is to wait patiently, while the justice of God unfolds.

    This same battle is still been played out today within the Church As seen in the ‘just’, self-inflicted chastisement by ‘Truth’ (God) upon the leadership of the church, as our Lord Him-self has placed before these men of power, the elite within the church, who in their own hu-bris ensnared themselves, by crystalizing their hypocrisy before God and the whole church, in such a way that cannot be misunderstood by all.
    In endorsing a communiqué that incorporates the direct Word (Will) of God and then using that communiqué, they shamelessly made God in their image, a self-serving image of cleri-calism.
    But today we are more ‘enlightened’ in that we do not pass a death sentence (Go to war) on blasphemers.

    This has come about because we as a church, do not practise/teach the full reality of ‘Truth’

    Nevertheless on the spiritual plane all is in harmony, while His guiding Light, the Spirit of Truth, leads God’s holy people along the ongoing ‘Way’ of spiritual enlightenment.

    kevin your brother
    In Christ

    1. Kevin Walters
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      Addition to my post above

      “If God is so hateful and wrathful, then I want nothing to do with him.”

      So in the context of a wrathful God of the Old Testament, how do we as Christians explain the ever- lasting punishment of Hell, as given within the Gospels, to none believers.

      ”All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven to men”

      My understand of these words, are that, when one deliberately destroys the potential of the soul, by persistently denying the Truth (light/grace/living water) of the Holy Spirit, who prompts the heart to flourish and grow spiritually, would eventual result in that person, been able to call evil good, and good evil.

      Any individual, who deliberately separates the intellect from the heart, receives a cold light, the product of which is an intellect, free from the normal constraints of conscience, as self-will rules. Because the light is cold, its deliberate application via free Will upon the heart/soul, has a drying effect, resulting in that soul/heart been devoid of true love and compassion, a self-contained dwelling place of spiritual desolation.

      Many cultures throughout the ages have believed in Heaven and Hell and it could be said that this belief is innately known; as we hide in the bushes so to say, to cover our nakedness (Sinfulness/evil) before God (Goodness)

      Many years ago, before I knew what the early Greeks did know (Sibyl #)
      Speck of light, in darkest night
      Opening eye orange sky
      A universe in a grain of sand but opened on whose command?
      Wide waste land of orange clay, continual day
      No shrub, tree or hill, total still
      Horizon racing to the eye, empty land and sky
      Then black speck so far away drawn back for display
      A woman dressed in shabby black, seen from the back
      Walking with purpose to nowhere, further into the orange glare
      Now her frame fills the eye wide as the widest sky
      Turning a dried out corpse, every part intact
      Groaning, “Why have you brought me back?”
      Obduracy, holding back despair, nowhere to go but on ward into the orange glow
      In desolation she did stand, a soul contained within her own land
      Whom she spoke to I do not know, but me she did not see
      In sadness I left her orange sky, with the closing of the eye
      Knowing that she would never die

      First, extract from one of two letters I wrote many years ago, encompassing the above subject matter.
      “Are you watering the white Chrysanthemum? As I write to you I am conscious of the chrysanthemum on top of the fridge. I am refusing to give it a human name, because I cannot comprehend how any human being would want to become what this symbolizes, to me it symbolizes misery, something that has seen no love or has seen love and lost it. It is uncared for, truly alone, as no human would want it… Do water the white Chrysanthemum xxxx, don’t let it become like this one here, it cannot be revived”

      Extract from letter two
      “I come back to the dried out unwatered flower (White Chrysanthemum) sat on the top the fridge. This is the key, for me to open the door, to look at this dark place. I was going to call the plant Aphrodite, I once spoke to you, about her been in a desert, but could not describe her to you, she looked so terrible, the more I look at this plant the more I see her. I could now describe her to you, by saying, look at this plant this is her. The early Greeks obviously could see through her deception of beauty and see the real essence of her being; she had nothing to offer, she was a reflection of self-love, which is desire. From my simple understanding of Greek mythology, it seem some of the original messages, were very simple and spiritual. But like most things, the crudity in man’s nature, turned the messages to comply with their own self-love and justify their baseness. But I believe that I have found a better name for the dried out plant on the top of fridge. That is Sibyl; now it seems that the
      message about Sibyl as I see it, is that she was a woman of great intelligence and gave her heart (hand, love,) to Apollo, light to the intellect and music to the soul. The light is a cold light and the music dry, it kills the heart, it’s the same music (song), that the Sirens capture men’s heart with, and ensnares them forever, drying out their bones (inner self) as it dried out poor Sybil’s heart. Sybil is now in a bottle; she can still see the cold/dry light.
      The King of the weeds holds her aloft under the roof of the underworld. No water (Love) can reach her now. He looks at her with a smile, the smile of Aphrodite, another soul has been captured/lost

      #Sibyl. Any of a number of women, believed to be oracles or prophetesses, devotees of Apollo. One of the most famous was the Sibyl of Came. Apollo asked her to be his lover in return he offered her anything she would like, she accepted his gift and asked for as
      many years as a pile of sweeping contained grains of dust. The grains numbered
      a thousand. Unfortunately she did not ask for eternal youth. She changed her
      mind about becoming Apollo’s mistress and continued to age. She finally became
      so old that she hung from the ceiling of her cave, in a bottle all shrivelled up, and when the children asked her what she wanted most she replied, “I want to die”

      Note: Every sin can be forgiven, that includes the seven deadly sins.

      kevin your brother
      In Christ


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